My kids drive me crazy please help me !!!!?

Going to therapy is good, don't listen to people who would make fun of you for this They are obviously in need of counciling for pive agression problems. Raising children is a very taxing and emmotionally draining experiance along with being wonderful. You don't have to lower your expectations and you don't have to talk too much. Sit down and make out a short consice list of rules and consequenses. Then explaine it once to the children. If they don't listen it's not your fault. If they screw up then immediatly refer to the list and hand out the punishment swiftly each and everytime. they have figured out how to manipulate you into getting what they want. You willnot allow this power struggle to continue. If you have to ground them to their rooms and empty it one by one of toys and possesions to get across the point of who is in charge you will. You will have an Iron will and you will npot give in. Don't have a conversation about problems- refer to the list and fallow it. if they have a good behavior reward it lavishly if they have a bad behavior punsh them swiftlyu. It doesn't matter if they like or dislike church they are children who live under your roof and are supported by you. You be in charge but you have to always act like it. Remove them and have them face the corner with there nose stuck in it repeat this until they realise that it will happen each and everytime they screw up in church.